Frontrunner Trump’s absence at ‘hot mess’ second GOP debate leaves Haley, DeSantis and Scott to spar for second place

Nikki Haley, former ambassador to the United Nations and 2024 Republican presidential candidate, during the Republican primary presidential debate hosted by Fox Business Network in Simi Valley, California, US, on Wednesday, Sept. 27, 2023. The auto workers strike, the looming government shutdown and a renewed focus on abortion rights all set the backdrop for the second Republican primary debate today.

Nikki Haley, former ambassador to the United Nations and 2024 Republican presidential candidate, during the Republican primary presidential debate hosted by Fox Business Network in Simi Valley, California, US, on Wednesday, Sept. 27, 2023. The auto workers strike, the looming government shutdown and a renewed focus on abortion rights all set the backdrop for the second Republican primary debate today.

The of the Republican presidential primary took place on Wednesday evening at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California. As with the first debate, frontrunner , giving the event an undercard feel. Leading in both national and early-state polls by , the former and potentially future president instead to hold a rally with automotive workers.

did none of the candidates who showed up any favors. “All of this, it seems to me, helps Donald Trump,” David Axelrod, former top adviser to President Barack Obama, said on CNN in a post-debate panel. “Because rather than creating clarity, it creates more of a muddle for voters.”

Below, find our top 5 takeaways from the second debate.

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1. ‘A hot mess’

Nikki Haley, former ambassador to the United Nations and 2024 Republican presidential candidate, during the Republican primary presidential debate hosted by Fox Business Network in Simi Valley, California, US, on Wednesday, Sept. 27, 2023. The auto workers strike, the looming government shutdown and a renewed focus on abortion rights all set the backdrop for the second Republican primary debate today.

Nikki Haley, former ambassador to the United Nations and 2024 Republican presidential candidate, during the Republican primary presidential debate hosted by Fox Business Network in Simi Valley, California, US, on Wednesday, Sept. 27, 2023. The auto workers strike, the looming government shutdown and a renewed focus on abortion rights all set the backdrop for the second Republican primary debate today. (Mike Blake)

Perhaps the most telling moment of the debate was when moderator and Fox News anchor Dana Perino told North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum to stop interrupting others — or face punishment.

“Sir, we will have to cut your mic and I don’t want to do that,” she chided him. “I don’t”

To be fair, Burgum was only following the lead of the other candidates on the stage, who constantly shouted and spoke over each other, turning the debate stage into a high school cafeteria.

“This is a hot mess,” .

The squabbling seemed to vindicate Trump’s decision to stay away from Southern California.

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2. Another good night for Haley

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis walks behind former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley during a break in the second Republican candidates' debate of the 2024 U.S. presidential campaign at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California, U.S. September 27, 2023. REUTERS/Mike Blake

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis walks behind former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley during a break in the second Republican candidates’ debate of the 2024 U.S. presidential campaign at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California, U.S. September 27, 2023. REUTERS/Mike Blake (Mike Blake / reuters)

For the last nine months, Trump has , who was after decisively winning reelection last year. But after Wednesday’s debate, the Trump campaign attacked another candidate: former South Carolina Governor and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations (during the Trump administration) Nikki Haley.

In an email sent at the conclusion of the debate, Trump’s campaign singled out Haley, comparing her to Hillary Clinton, calling her “weak on immigration” and suggesting she had been disloyal by pointing to statements she made in 2021 about not running for president in 2024 if Trump did.

It was a sign that, , Haley had made the most convincing case for a non-Trump, not-quite-anti-Trump, sort-of-post-Trump nominee. In one memorable exchange, with a shattering uppercut: “Honestly, every time I hear you, I feel a little bit dumber,” she said about his views on the social media app Tik-Tok. She also sparred aggressively with Sen. Tim Scott, a fellow South Carolinian, and DeSantis, who seemed unprepared for the intensity of her attacks.

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3. Ron DeSantis does well, but probably not well enough

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis listens during the second Republican candidates' debate of the 2024 U.S. presidential campaign at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California, U.S. September 27, 2023. REUTERS/Mike Blake

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis listens during the second Republican candidates’ debate of the 2024 U.S. presidential campaign at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California, U.S. September 27, 2023. REUTERS/Mike Blake (Mike Blake / reuters)

DeSantis was once compared by pundits to Reagan, the iconic conservative president in whose library Wednesday night’s debate took place.

Obviously aware that his unwillingness to directly take on Trump by calling into question his pugnacious brand, DeSantis took on the frontrunner, and his political mentor, directly.

“Donald Trump is missing in action. He should be on this stage tonight. He owes it to you to defend his record,” . For the most part, he refused to recede into the background, as he did during the first debate. However, with and donors fleeing, he did little to make the case that he is the best candidate to take on Trump.

Haley’s ascent only added to his travails.

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4. Tim Scott awakens

US Senator from South Carolina Tim Scott speaks during the second Republican presidential primary debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California on September

US Senator from South Carolina Tim Scott speaks during the second Republican presidential primary debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California on September (Robyn Beck/AFP)

When he first announced his run for the presidency, Scott — the lone Black Republican in the U.S. Senate — engendered instant support from senior Capitol Hill conservatives, . But after several months of campaigning, he had failed to attract voters’ excitement.

Wednesday saw Scott show what, exactly, makes him a favorite of so many conservatives. “I have been discriminated against, but America is not a racist country,” he said, of the state of the nation. He also suggested that President Lyndon B. Johnson’s social programs, known collectively as the Great Society, did more to harm the Black family than chattel slavery — a potentially controversial argument that may nevertheless find traction on the right, especially at a time of backlash to the racial reckoning that began in 2020.

“Tim Scott just delivered exactly what his supporters have been waiting for,” t. “Rejecting American racism in favor of American Exceptionalism is one of the best lines of the entire campaign, and it was delivered with the passion and emotion that make it memorable.”

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5. But nothing really changed

stand at their podiums during a Republican presidential primary debate hosted by FOX Business Network and Univision, Wednesday, Sept. 27, 2023, at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif.

stand at their podiums during a Republican presidential primary debate hosted by FOX Business Network and Univision, Wednesday, Sept. 27, 2023, at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif. (Mark J. Terrill)

After two hours of shouting, arguing and pontification, what ultimately changed about the dynamics of the GOP primary race?

Absolutely nothing.

Trump to secure the party’s presidential nomination, while Haley, DeSantis, Ramaswamy and others continued to compete for voters who are firmly or somewhat against Trump. Their rancorous performance on Wednesday night gave their respective supporters some of the fuel they needed, which means that the field will continue to be crowded and sharply divided. And that, ultimately, only helps Trump.

Simply by not showing up, he may have won again.

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